SON CUATRO: Cheech in Conversation with Margaret Garcia

SON CUATRO: Cheech in Conversation with Margaret Garcia

Margaret García is the featured artist in this episode of the “Son Cuatro: In Conversation” podcast co-hosted by art advocate Cheech Marin with Todd Wingate, Director of Exhibitions and Collections at Riverside Art Museum (RAM) and Anna Bermudez, Chief Curator at the Museum of Ventura County. Arts marketing strategist Melissa Richardson Banks of CauseConnect — who also manages Cheech Marin’s notable Chicano art collection — is the moderator and producer of this series.

Part of RAM’s continued programming leading up to its opening of The Cheech, “Son Cuatro: In Conversation” is focused on sharing the work and the stories of Chicana/o/x artists, gaining their insights, and helping to inspire more community interaction and support for The Cheech Marin Center for Chicano Art & Culture of Riverside Art Museum. Syndicated nationally through Richardson Banks’ MUSED: LA 2 HOU platform, this inaugural four-part series is made possible through the generosity of the Union Pacific Foundation.

Each artist conversation is recorded live with an audience via Zoom and edited into a separate audio episode. The programs are available for listening through RAM’s website at and on nationally syndicated podcast platforms such as Apple, Pandora, Google, iHeart Radio, and others.

Check out the works by Margaret on her website and on social media: Facebook and Instagram. Her solo exhibition “Arte Para la Gente: Margaret García” is on view Thursday, November 11, 2021 through Sunday, May 8, 2022 (opening reception on Saturday, November 13 at 2:00 PM Pacific) at the Museum of Ventura County (100 E. Main St., Ventura, CA 93001 –

Enjoy the conversation.

~ Melissa Richardson Banks


Melissa Richardson Banks introduces the program and Cheech talks about his relationship with Margaret and her work, particularly “Janine at 39, Mother of Twins,” which was one of the most popular artworks displayed during his “Chicano Visions: Painters on the Verge” museum exhibition tour.  He says that her paintings “tend to be lush” in terms of subject matter and generous use of paint. Cheech shared that Margaret’s paintings are among his favorites in the collection because he can stare at them for a long time and they remind him of neighborhoods that he knew from his childhood. Key questions posed to Margaret by Cheech, Anna Bermudez and Todd Wingate includes “why did you become an artist,” “who influenced you,” and more. Margaret turned the tables on Cheech a few times, particularly with the devastating story he often shares about his grade school teacher proclaiming that he would “never be an artist” after viewing his artwork. He often shares that she is the “most improved” artist, but she countered that she focuses on evolving.

ABOUT MARGARET GARCIA: Margaret García says “her work provides a look at my community through the presence of the individual” and her desire is for her work “to be pertinent and meaningful.” Although she does not consider her work overtly political, over time, she has come to realize that many of her portraits belies the stereotypes given to any one culture by the media. In addition to her portrayals of sensual women of mixed race, many of García’s street scenes and landscapes depicting her neighborhood of Highland Park are in Cheech Marin’s collection. A teacher and a mentor to many young artists, García studied fine art at California State University, Northridge; Los Angeles City College; and the University of Southern California. Her work has been exhibited in group shows throughout the United States and in Europe, and she is published widely. García teaches and lectures extensively on art in different cultures. Her first solo museum exhibition opens this October at the Museum of Ventura County ( Learn more at During the pandemic, García conceived her “Prayers” project and has been a mentor, inspiration, and champion for the team that now leads Prayers Worldwide. Visit


Cheech Marin is recognized today as a preeminent Chicano art advocate. In the mid-1980s, he began developing what is now arguably the finest private collection of Chicano art. Much of it formed the core of his inaugural exhibition Chicano Visions: American Painters on the Verge, which broke attendance records during its groundbreaking 15‐city tour during 2001‐2007 to major U.S. art museums. He states, “Chicano art is American art. My goal is to bring the term ‘Chicano’ to the forefront of the art world.” Following the success of Chicano Visions, over a dozen additional exhibitions drawn from his collection have toured to more than 50 museums in the United States and Europe under the direction of Melissa Richardson Banks (many accompanied by independently published catalogs). Best known as one half of the hilariously irreverent, satirical, counter-culture, no-holds-barred duo Cheech and Chong, Cheech Marin is a paradox in the world of entertainment — he is an actor, director, writer, musician, art collector, and humanitarian.

Anna Rios Bermudez is a native of Ventura County and has been a member of the Museum of Ventura County’s staff since 1008. She is Chief Curator at both the Ventura campus and the Agriculture Museum in Santa Paula. Anna’s expertise is in the culture and history of Ventura County from a multi-ethnic perspective and focuses on art and artists from Ventura County and the surrounding region. Anna develops and interprets exhibitions, publications, and gallery installations centered on local history, regional art and popular culture. Since joining MVC in 2007, she has curated some of the most successful exhibitions in the history of the Museum of Ventura County. Bermudez is currently on the board of the Latino Baseball History Project at Cal State San Bernardino that documents information and preserves artifacts related to Latino baseball in the United States. She has served as a board member at Ventura’s Bell Arts Factory and on the advisory committee for Network for a Healthy California.  She was selected as one of the Mentors for Many: Studio Channel Islands Art Center.  In 2014 Qnnq received the Mayor’s Arts Award from the City of Ventura as an Arts Leader.  She was  recently invited to serve as an exhibit and collections advisor for the Smithsonian’s Latino Center exhibit in the new Molina Gallery, National Museum of American History/Smithsonian Institution. Her spare time is spent researching food history in Ventura County and she is currently working on a cookbook based on that research.

Todd Wingate has been the Director of Exhibitions and Collections at the Riverside Art Museum since 2016. Prior to coming to the Riverside Art Museum, Wingate served as the Assistant Dean of Students at the University of California, Riverside (UCR). He spent a total of 18 years at UCR and originally arrived there to direct the performing arts program and curated 15 seasons, presenting artists across multiple art forms, including authors Maya Angelou and David Sedaris, musicians Philip Glass, Laurie Anderson, and Kronos Quartet, choreographers Bill T. Jones, Twyla Tharp, Alvin Ailey, and popular groups, such as Los Lonely Boys, Los Lobos, Dianne Reeves, and Perla Batalla. While at UCR, Wingate was responsible for oversight of the construction and management of the $55 million Highlander Union (UCR’s student union) and developed and produced the Heat Music Festival, a multistage rock, electronic, and hip hop festival with an annual attendance of over 13,000. Wingate currently serves as Vice President and Chief Administrator for the Wingate Foundation and is on the board of directors of the Sam and Alfreda Maloof Foundation for Arts and Craft.

Melissa Richardson Banks is an arts marketing specialist who has managed Cheech Marin’s notable Chicano art collection since 2005. In addition to handling his speaking engagements, community events, and professional commitments, she has worked with Cheech to organize, market, and tour more than 13 exhibitions of works from his collection to over 50 museums nationwide and in Europe. Her firm CauseConnect celebrates its 20th anniversary of “doing business by doing good” in October 2021. She specializes in creating strategic marketing partnerships and is known for designing innovative, cost-effective solutions that produce results — from raising funds to raising awareness. In addition to Cheech, she works with corporate and nonprofit clients on projects in the arts, education, and the environment. As Downtown Muse, Melissa is also an independent cultural producer and a seasoned marketing professional. She plans, creates, funds and executes events, programs and projects such as museum exhibits, community festivals, virtual and in-person speaker series, classical music concerts, influencer dinners and salons. To date, she has produced, marketed, managed, and/or funded over 100 museum exhibits, and managed several national tours of traveling exhibits and art shows. She is also a lifestyle photographer who blogs about the arts at Her work online can be seen on Instagram as @DowntownMuse.


  • Raul Pacheco of Ozomatli generously allowed use of clips from his song “LaLaLa” for the intro and outro of this podcast.
  • Eva Crawford designed the logo for “Son Cuatro: In Conversation” and created the episode artwork.
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